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October 2005
Saw II: An Interview
with Donnie Wahlberg
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By Wilson Morales When "Saw" came out last year, it was viewed as independent film that captured the attention of many. There hasn't been that many films that plays out like a puzzle and "Saw" kept you, as gruesome as it was played out, focus. The success of that film ultimately drove the producers to come up with a sequel and now it comes, "Saw II". In this film, Donnie Wahlberg plays Detective Eric Mason, who's been targeted by Jigsaw to come and play a game with him. At the same time, Jigsaw locks a few unlucky people in a booby-trapped shelter; where they must find a way out before they inhale too much of a lethal nerve gas and die. But they must watch out, for the traps Jigsaw has set in the shelter lead to death also. In speaking with blackfilm.com, Wahlberg goes over his character and why he chose to do the horror film.Let's talk about your character, Detective Eric Mason. What
did you expect would happen when you took on the role? Donnie Wahlberg: What did I expect? Well, I've learned not
to expect anything other than focus what I can control, so expectations
are always out the window; because if you expect a little, sometimes you'll
get surprise and you expect a lot, you usually get disappointed. But in
terms of the project itself, I had concerns and hopes. The hope would
be that we could do a slightly higher quality job that could come close
or be better than the original; and when I say more quality, they had
no money to make that first film. Obviously, they would have more resources
this time, so I would hope that would translate into better quality, but
the success and what they were able to do with that first movie, we would
have to work really hard to match that in terms of what's on screen, not
box office. It's about surprising the audience and making the audience
go through all the different changes that they went through in the first
one and have them cringe and all the other stuff. On top of that, it's
a sequel and there's a real danger in doing a sequel. There are some benefits,
but that all hinges on how well you execute. Quite frankly, most sequels
don't execute well. I made it a priority to make sure that every time
I was on set, we were trying to execute as good as possible. I think that
was one of the reasons they wanted me to do the movie. Being that it was
a first time director, they (the producers) know what I bring to the
table. I work hard in everything I do and I'm not a selfish actor and
I'm not worried about me looking better than anyone else. I think that
was really it. I wanted to make it the best it can be. I understand you added some changes to the character from the original script? DW: Not changes to the character; it was more changes to
the dialogue. The whole Jigsaw/ Eric relationship was dicey to me. There
was a fundamental difference between our film and the first film in that
you have two people have a dialogue in both films, while there's all this
danger going on and all this craziness, but in the first film, the two
guys were chained in a room and they had no choice but to be there. In
our film, no one is chained in the room with the two guys who are sitting
there. My character has a choice whether or not he wants to be there.
In some ways, you can say that he doesn't have a choice.
Ultimately, the choice is he makes is that, "I don't have a choice, I
have to sit here." When you cut from eight people in the house and getting
tortured and dying and one of them has a relationship with my character,
to me, it had to be more plausible that my character had to sit there
and ultimately whether or not he's able to stay there. That's really what
the game is, isn't it? To me, when I first read the script, it wasn't
the strong part of the script. I didn't the audience to sit there and
watch the movie and say, "This is stupid!" There's even a scene where
Jigsaw is rambling on about metaphysics and my character just says, ŒThis
is bullshit. What are you talking about? You want me to sit and talk to
you. You want me to do what you How was it working with Tobin Bell? DW: Great. I don't want to toot my own horn, but it's rare
that I come across actors who are willing to work as hard on the material
as I am and he was all the way, ready to go. Once it was time for the
two of us to work together, we were just relentless. I would finish shooting
and go to the hotel and re-write the scenes and work it and try it different
ways and try different ideas and
different lines; and we made sure we always brought it back to what's
important. He would throw me a curveball and try to irritate me. He was
just so willing to work and I really admired that in him. Ultimately in
the end, it's the director's choice. It's the director's and the producers'
and the studio's choice of what they are going to use, but w Why do you think your character was reluctant to get involve in the case? DW: I think he's a selfish person. He's the type of person
who's incapable of concerning himself with other people's feelings including
his son's. In his mind, he probably has bigger issues. As we discover,
he's not the most ethical person in the world. It all makes sense if you
think about the first movie and what Jigsaw's mode is; what his MO is.
This is a guy who doesn't really care anymore and he's kinda mailing it
in. It's no mistake that he's brought into this case. It's by design and
I think Jigsaw probably knew that this guy wouldn't want to get involved
in the case and that's why he singled him out. When his name is on the
ceiling, he's basically saying, "You are going to be my next subject."
If my character was a little less selfish and a little less self-absorbed
wasn't in a world of self-loathing, he might have been smart enough to
realize that he was being pulled into something. That's sort of like life.
We are at time so worried about ourselves we miss other stuff; and if
you get carried away with that like my character does, it could really
get you. In most cases and in real life, we figure it out befor Was that the appeal of a playing a screwed up character? DW: I never really thought about that. I didn't think about whether the audience would care this guy or not. My character didn't care about himself. I hope that audience would get that he cares about his son, but that doesn't mean I expected the audience to have sympathy for him. If they believe that he knows he made a mistake, that's good enough. I didn't the audiences to say, "What an asshole!" I don't know if women in the audience care about Cary Elwes from the first Saw film. I think they still thought he was a bastard even if he didn't sleep with that woman. His mistake put him in that predicament and in real, if you mess around on your wife, you're probably not to going to end up chained up in the bathroom somewhere with a saw, but you can still make a mess out of things. What I kept zeroing in on with my character and his son is when I talk to my son, I tell him I love him every time I hang up the phone. I say, ŒI love you" when I drop him off at school only because I want to make sure that the last things I say to him is something wonderful. That's one of the things we added to the script. That was one of the best moments for my character, to see what was the last thing he said to his son. When Jigsaw asks him that, that was something I had to have in that scene. If you are a parent, you will say probably say to yourself, "That's not good." That's the thing that you have to live with. With your role in "The Sixth Sense" and this film, what do you think about being in a film that's like a puzzle? DW: I don't know. It doesn't matter to me if it has a surprise
ending or not. I usually go for the material or the project. In this case,
I didn't really think about doing
a horror movie. It wasn't something I was really interested in, but when
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